[ISN] Security Community OS preferences

From: mea culpa <jericho_at_dimensional.com>
Date: Mon 19 Oct 1998 - 02:08:32 CDT
[Moderator: Really neat post here. Going to add a few comments for
 everyone :) ..  'repsec' is running 2.0.34 with custom mods. 'caltech' ..
 I can see that. I know of several EDUs running old stuff like SunOS,
 Ultrix and the like. AOL runs "stratus" machines if I am not mistaken. 
 I found info on them a while back on their web site (www.stratus.com?)
 and might be a neat addition to the database. Elsewise, these are dead on
 accurate as best as I know. VERY nice addition to the NMAP utility.]

From: Fyodor <fyodor@dhp.com>

For those who don't know, I am finishing a new version of my Nmap network
exploration tool.  This version does remote OS identification via TCP/IP
fingerprinting (kindof like the awesome queso program, although nmap
uses some more advanced techniques).  In any case, I did a mass scan of
(mostly) security sites and I thought it might interest the list as well
as shed some light into what operating systems are preferred by security
companies and hackers (I don't claim it is a statisticly valid sample --
I just picked sites off the top of my head):

# "Hacker" sites
www.l0pht.com        => OpenBSD 2.2 - 2.4
www.insecure.org     => Linux 2.0.31-34
www.rhino9.ml.org    => Windows 95/NT     # No comment :)
www.technotronic.com => Linux 2.0.31-34
www.2600.com         => FreeBSD 2.2.6 - 3.0 Beta
www.kevinmitnick.com => Linux 2.0.31-34  # Free Kevin!
www.antionline.com   => FreeBSD 2.2.6 - 3.0 Beta
www.rootshell.com    => Linux 2.0.35

# Security vendors, consultants, etc.
www.repsec.com       => Linux 2.0.35
www.iss.net          => Linux 2.0.31-34
www.checkpoint.com   => Solaris 2.5 - 2.51
www.infowar.com      => Win95/NT

# Vendor loyalty to their OS
www.li.org           => Linux 2.0.35  # Linux International
www.redhat.com       => Linux 2.0.31-34 # I wonder what distribution :)
www.debian.org       => Linux 2.0.35
www.linux.org        => Linux 2.1.122   
www.sgi.com          => IRIX 6.2 - 6.4
www.netbsd.org       => NetBSD 1.3X
www.openbsd.org      => Solaris 2.6     # Ahem :)
www.freebsd.org      => FreeBSD 2.2.6-3.0 Beta

# Ivy league
www.harvard.edu      => Solaris 2.6
www.yale.edu         => Solaris 2.5 - 2.51
www.caltech.com      => SunOS 4.1.2-4.1.4 # Hello! This is the 90's :)   
                                          # Might be a custom machine instead.
www.mit.edu          => Solaris 2.5 - 2.51 # Coincidence that the good
                                           # schools all seem to like Sun?

# Lamer sites
www.aol.com          => IRIX 6.2 - 6.4  # No wonder they are so insecure :)
www.happyhacker.org  => OpenBSD 2.2-2.4 # Sick of being owned, Carolyn?
                                        # Even the most secure OS is
                                        # useless in the hands of an
                                        # incompetent admin.

# Misc
www.lwn.net          => Linux 2.0.31-34 # This Linux news site rocks!
www.whitehouse.gov   => IRIX 5.3

Notes: In their security white paper, Microsoft said about their lax
security:  "this assumption has changed over the years as Windows NT gains
popularity largely because of its security features.".  Hmm, from where I
stand it doesn't look like Windows is very popular among the security
community :).  I only see 2 Windows boxes from the whole group, and
Windows is _easy_ for nmap to distinguish since it is so broken (standards
wise). 

The version of nmap used for this will probably be released within 2
weeks - 2 months.  If you really _must_ have the beta now, send me
mail.  The released version is at http://www.insecure.org/nmap/ .  If
you run any of these boxes and I got the OS wrong, please send me
mail.

Cheers,
Fyodor (fyodor@dhp.com)

--
Fyodor                                  'finger fyodor@dhp.com | pgp -fka'
"Girls are different from hacking. You can't just brute force them if all
else fails." --SKiMo, quoted in _Underground_ (good book)


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